Saturday, July 04, 2009
Top Ten Things That You Should Know About Barack H. Obama’s (a/k/a Barry Soetoro) U.S. Citizenship
1. He may not be a natural born citizen qualified to serve as President under Article II of the Constitution.
He admits he was born to an American mother and a British subject, suggesting dual citizenship at best. [1]If he was not born on U.S. soil, and his mother was a minor, she was ineligible to convey US citizenship.[2] Under the British Nationality Act of 1948, he was born a British Citizen.[3] His paternal grandmother claims to have attended his birth in Kenya.[4] Kenya memorializes his place of birth.[5]
2. He is a suspected illegal alien for two possible reasons.
At age 3, his mother and father divorced. His mother remarried and his step-father enrolled him in school in Indonesia as “Barry Soetoro.”[6]
At age 10, after his mother’s second divorce,[7]he reentered the US by casually and illegally assuming his birth name. Later still, he ran for and won elected office under his birth name without disclosing his legal name or his prior use of alternative names.[8]
3. He took elected office and was admitted to the Illinois Bar under an alias.
No record of any legal name change from ‘Barry Soetoro’ to ‘Barack Obama’ has ever been found.
4. He probably lost his citizenship.
An Indonesian citizen at age 6[9], having been adopted by a national, he may be in the US illegally.[10] USC §1481(a)(2) provides loss of nationality by natural born citizens upon “taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state … after having attained the age of eighteen years,” in violation of 8 U.S.C. §1401(a)(1). Indonesia did not allow for dual citizenship. If Obama got an Indonesian passport in 1981, when he was 20 years old, he effectively renounced any U.S. citizenship he may have had.
5. He is suspected of secretly holding a foreign passport.
When he traveled to Pakistan ‘in college’,[11] Americans were not allowed into that country.[12] If he traveled on an Indonesian passport in 1981 at age 20, he was and remains an Indonesian citizen.
6. He posted an illegitimate birth record to deflect questions and allegations.
The “Certification of Live Birth” shown on FightTheSmears.com is not a birth certificate, but an image of an abstract that was invalidated by alteration. As indicated on that same image, the blacked out certification number invalidates the document. Document analysis shows it to be a suspected forgery.
7. The Certification of Live Birth is a suspected forgery.
The border is one that is used in 2007 COLBs. As a security measure, Hawaii changes their borders every year. This is when the Obama campaign claims the certificate was obtained. However, the seal and signature stamp are from a 2008 COLB. As revealed by a process called edging, the Hawaiian seal and signature stamp on the back of the document are revealed to be from the wrong year. Document experts have analyzed other aspects and find forgery.
8. He refuses to release relevant records.
Since matters available in the public domain raise these issues, the burden rests on Obama/Soetoro to explain. He declines to release college applications, transcripts, his birth record, or addresses of where he has lived.
9. His selective service registration may be falsified.
A FOIA document shows a 2008 sequence number for a supposed 1980 registration, an incorrect date of signature, an obsolete postal stamp and other discrepancies. Did he register at age 18 like everyone else?[13]
10. Not a single cause of action has been won by Obama on the merits.
All pending suits attempting to get Obama/Soetoro to produce simple documents have been dismissed on technical grounds such as the standing of the plaintiff. Therefore, the courts, including the Supreme Court of the United States have never ruled on the merits of his citizenship.
FOOTNOTES (see bottom of post)
He admits he was born to an American mother and a British subject, suggesting dual citizenship at best. [1]If he was not born on U.S. soil, and his mother was a minor, she was ineligible to convey US citizenship.[2] Under the British Nationality Act of 1948, he was born a British Citizen.[3] His paternal grandmother claims to have attended his birth in Kenya.[4] Kenya memorializes his place of birth.[5]
2. He is a suspected illegal alien for two possible reasons.
At age 3, his mother and father divorced. His mother remarried and his step-father enrolled him in school in Indonesia as “Barry Soetoro.”[6]
At age 10, after his mother’s second divorce,[7]he reentered the US by casually and illegally assuming his birth name. Later still, he ran for and won elected office under his birth name without disclosing his legal name or his prior use of alternative names.[8]
3. He took elected office and was admitted to the Illinois Bar under an alias.
No record of any legal name change from ‘Barry Soetoro’ to ‘Barack Obama’ has ever been found.
4. He probably lost his citizenship.
An Indonesian citizen at age 6[9], having been adopted by a national, he may be in the US illegally.[10] USC §1481(a)(2) provides loss of nationality by natural born citizens upon “taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state … after having attained the age of eighteen years,” in violation of 8 U.S.C. §1401(a)(1). Indonesia did not allow for dual citizenship. If Obama got an Indonesian passport in 1981, when he was 20 years old, he effectively renounced any U.S. citizenship he may have had.
5. He is suspected of secretly holding a foreign passport.
When he traveled to Pakistan ‘in college’,[11] Americans were not allowed into that country.[12] If he traveled on an Indonesian passport in 1981 at age 20, he was and remains an Indonesian citizen.
6. He posted an illegitimate birth record to deflect questions and allegations.
The “Certification of Live Birth” shown on FightTheSmears.com is not a birth certificate, but an image of an abstract that was invalidated by alteration. As indicated on that same image, the blacked out certification number invalidates the document. Document analysis shows it to be a suspected forgery.
7. The Certification of Live Birth is a suspected forgery.
The border is one that is used in 2007 COLBs. As a security measure, Hawaii changes their borders every year. This is when the Obama campaign claims the certificate was obtained. However, the seal and signature stamp are from a 2008 COLB. As revealed by a process called edging, the Hawaiian seal and signature stamp on the back of the document are revealed to be from the wrong year. Document experts have analyzed other aspects and find forgery.
8. He refuses to release relevant records.
Since matters available in the public domain raise these issues, the burden rests on Obama/Soetoro to explain. He declines to release college applications, transcripts, his birth record, or addresses of where he has lived.
9. His selective service registration may be falsified.
A FOIA document shows a 2008 sequence number for a supposed 1980 registration, an incorrect date of signature, an obsolete postal stamp and other discrepancies. Did he register at age 18 like everyone else?[13]
10. Not a single cause of action has been won by Obama on the merits.
All pending suits attempting to get Obama/Soetoro to produce simple documents have been dismissed on technical grounds such as the standing of the plaintiff. Therefore, the courts, including the Supreme Court of the United States have never ruled on the merits of his citizenship.
FOOTNOTES (see bottom of post)
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11. "What is truth?" said Pilate, and did not wait for an answer.
The operative fact is that all judges fear igniting riots or even a race war if they hear this case. So, in 48 cases thus far, the judge has claimed lack of jurisdiction and dismissed on standing, without considering the merits of the case.
Gutless wonders on the benches => thugocracy in the trenches.
First, Pres. Obama's Mother wasn't a minor when she married or when the hospital in Hawaii issued her the birth certificate for her son, Barack Obama. Since she was a US citizen in a US hospital on US territory her child was born a US citizen. Many divorced people in this country allow their children to use the same last name regardless if they have gone through legal name changes. It certainly wasn't a crime for Obama to use his birth name as soon as he was old enough to be aware of his complicated family background. Having a parent with more than one spouse and being raised by grandparents isn't that rare these days. Why do you keep harping on this like it makes Obama less American?
Obama lied about his aliases which was against the law: http://defendourfreedoms.org/letterHolder.doc
August of 1961: The same month that Obama Jr’s birth certificate says he was born in Hawaii, the University of Washington shows his mom Stanley “Ann” Dunham attending classes in Seattle nearly 2680 miles away from Honolulu. She was enrolled in the UW and lived in an apartment on Capitol Hill. This explains why Obama Sr’s friends in Hawaii don’t remember her. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how-could-stanl.html
Which hospital was that again? http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103306
Taken individually, you might brush aside Sen. Barack Obama's association with any single radical, but as you look at all of the people Obama met on the incestuous money trail, you find a pattern of close cohorts who can't be ignored. These are all radicals who work for "social justice" through the redistribution of the wealth (i.e. SOCIALISM):
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78217
If you read my blog, you will see that every action he's taken goes against the interests of a free country, and of the United States.
Re: "His paternal grandmother claims to have attended his birth in Kenya."
No she did NOT. If you listen to the complete tape of the interview, you will hear her say that Obama was born in Hawaii. http://www.obamacrimes.info/Telephone_Interview_with_Sarah_Hussein_Obama_10-16-08.mp3
Be sure to listen at least five minutes and 15 seconds until after the answer to the question: "Wherabouts was he born?'
If this is too difficult, here is the transcript: http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/obamatranscriptlulu109.pdf
Re: "Obama lied about his aliases'
The form that he filled in referred to other names under which someone practiced law.
Re: Obama's mother being registered as a student in Washington.
If you are right about the registration then it says she was registered. It does NOT prove that she attended. It is possible to be registered at a University without actually attending.
And besides, this was after the birth.
[4] Kenya memorializes his place of birth.[5]
There is, at the end of this video, a direct translation and another interview as well which supports that he was born in Kenya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGWcD5OHm08
"The form that he filled in referred to other names under which someone practiced law" and it was illegal for him to lie by omitting his other aliases (he's used several other aliases besides Barry Soetoro)
Yes, "It is possible to be registered at a University without actually attending..." which is why NOBODY remembers Obama at Columbia!
On Monday, a California judge decided to hear Obama's birth case on the merits of the evidence (and not on standing) so he obviously feels there are reasons to have a speedy trial about this subject!
http://lgstarr.blogspot.com/2009/07/obama-eligibility-case-will-be-heard-on.html
We shall see.
Re: "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGWcD5OHm08"
You mean the one that says "a son of this village?" That does not mean that he was born in the village. (In fact, the myth is that he was born in Mombassa, which is hundreds of miles from the village). In fact, he wasn't born in Kenya at all.
The "son of the village" is an emotional thing. It doesn't mean that he was born in the village. It relates to his father, who was born in the village.
But, there is no proof that Obama's mother ever went to Kenya, which would be necessary for him to be born there. The records of arrivals at a country are usually public records and are retained for decades.
Then, if Obama had been born in Kenya, he would have to get to Hawaii, and for him to get to Hawaii he would have needed a US visa on a British passport (records of which would be retained for decades in visa files at the state department. Or, his mother would have had to have her US passport amended to include Obama while she was in Kenya (if she ever was in Kenya), and that also would be retained as a record at the US State Department.
The US State Department was under the Republicans for years before the election and for about three months after the election, so if there were anything suspicious in any Kenya file they could have found it. Nothing.
No records in Kenya. Good records in Hawaii. Obama was born in Hawaii, which he can prove to any court that asks.
Rev. Kweli Shuhubia’s sworn affidavit of what he heard when he was in the room and helping to translate, confirms Sarah Obama saying she was there in Kenya when Obama was born...he also interviewed officials at the hospital in Mombasa as well as the registrar's office and they confirmed that as well:
http://www.fec.gov/law/litigation/berg_ac_berg_emerg_mot.pdf
Author Jerome Corsi tried to investigate and was detained by authorities and expelled from Kenya in spite of previously having been assured that his visa and passport was in order:
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1847965,00.html
However, if Obama was born in Hawaii, under Part II of the British Nationality Law 1948, Barack Obama Jr. was born a citizen of the United Kingdom by DESCENT because his father was a citizen of the United Kingdom:
British Nationality Act, 1948
http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm
And, if he was born in Kenya, his mother wasn’t old enough to pass her US citizenship onto him at birth:
Some speculate that Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. Only one of Obama’s parents was American. If Obama was born in Kenya (or any country other than the United States), he cannot legally serve as President of the United States because he is not a “natural born citizen,” even though he may have become a “naturalized citizen.” Obama’s American citizen parent, Ann Dunham, had to have been a resident of the United States for 10 years, at least five of which were over the age of 14. Dunham did not meet that requirement (of the Nationality Act of 1940, revised June, 1952) until her 19th birthday in late November of 1961, almost four months after Obama was born. The law confers U.S. nationality on the infant of a foreign father only under certain circumstances; it would apply to “(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States, who prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.”
http://www.zimbio.com/Stanley+Ann+Dunham+Soetoro/articles/48/The+Obama+Timeline
Wikipedia says Obama born in Kenya:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103810
Re: "Rev. Kweli Shuhubia’s "
There is no Rev. Kweli Shuhubia. It is a pseudonym. Therefore the sworn affidavit is worthless. The recording and the transcript both show that when asked a simple question: "Whereabouts was he born?", she replied "America, Hawaii!"
Re: "Author Jerome Corsi tried to investigate and was detained by authorities and expelled from Kenya in spite of previously having been assured that his visa and passport was in order."
I read Corsi's stories after he was thrown out. He went in to investigate the election. He was thrown out after holding a press conference in Kenya--which is a stupid thing for a "journalist" to do. If you are investigating things, you do not draw attention to yourself.
He never said in any article published under his byline that he tried to look at documents related to Obama. There has never been in any publication, US mainstream or foreign, a single confirmation of the WND allegation that there are any files in Kenya or that any files in Kenya have been sealed or blocked.
Here is the e-mail address of the American Chamber of Commerce in Kenya (Email: info@acck.org). Why not ask them whether there are files of Obama's mother in Kenya or any public document files at all in Kenya that have been blocked related to Obama. Or, any rumors that there are birth certificate files related to Obama.
Records of arrivals at airports are usually public document files, and many countries keep them for decades.
And, there are the US documents that would have to exist. If Obama were born in Kenya, he would need either a US visa on a British passport to get to Hawaii, or a change in his mother's passport to include him. He could not travel without one or the other.
In both cases, there would have to be records in the state department in Washington, which was under the Republicans for years prior to the election and for three months after it, and nothing has been found from Kenya in the way of a visa or a change to his mother's passport. She was never in Kenya.
Here is the response, just in, from the American Chamber of Commerce of Kenya:
Dear Linda Starr,
The American Chamber Of Commerce Of Kenya Core business is to promote business relations between Kenya and the US. Am sorry I cannot help you in answering your questions.
Best regards, Brenda
According to his affidavit, Shuhubia is an ordained minister, native evangelist and translator for the Anabaptist churches in Kenya.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pzydj617-o0/SRW_Y_OFsHI/AAAAAAAAABg/Nv9GS_IEwzs/s1600-h/aa.jpg
Use of a pseudonym doesn't mean a person doesn't exist.
In Kenya for a week, Corsi had scheduled the Oct. 7 press conference on the morning of the day he was scheduled to take an 11:45 p.m. British Airways flight from Nairobi to London.
"I feared my life would be in danger once I revealed the information and documents I had uncovered in Kenya," Corsi said, "so I scheduled to leave that evening, once I had completed the press conference and had some time to do follow-up one-on-one interviews with interested reporters."
In the week he was in Kenya, Corsi held extensive private meetings with numerous highly positioned government officials, former leaders of Raila Odinga's Orange Democratic Movement party, influential Christian missionaries, African Christian pastors and various long-time experts in Kenyan politics.
Most of Corsi's interviews were conducted under the condition that he keep his sources anonymous, largely because those meeting with him feared reprisals and possibly even threats to their lives for sharing information for publication with WorldNetDaily.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78280
BTW, no Hawaiian official has ever said that Obama was born in Hawaii...only that they had seen a birth certificate.
That Obama has never allowed access to any of his records speaks volumes.
Re: "BTW, no Hawaiian official has ever said that Obama was born in Hawaii...only that they had seen a birth certificate."
This is not true. http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_hawaaianborn_citizen_for.html
Notice that the spokeswoman for the department, an official of the department, spoke with the Chicago Tribune and twice (once on the telephone and once in writing) said that the presence of an original birth certificate in the file means that Obama was born in Hawaii.
Re: Corsi quotes. All that you quoted indicates that he was investigating the Kenyan election. He did not say that he had found that there were sealed documents in Kenya. And, more importantly, no one else has ever said that there were sealed Obama-related documents in Kenya. There are hundreds of journalists in Kenya, some from the MSM and others from Russia or China (who have no love for Obama) and still others are freelancers who would make money if they could find out something newsworthy. None of them have had stories that say that there are Obama files in Kenya that have been sealed.
The records of arrivals at airports are normally public documents and are usually saved for many years. If Obama's mother had arrived in Kenya, that would have been be found by now. Or, it would have been sealed, and the fact that the arrival files for 1961 were sealed would have been known by now.
If Obama had been born in Kenya there would have to be documents showing that he was born in Kenya. Among them would be US government documents that could not be sealed by Kenya. And, those government documents would be in the files of the US State Department, which was under the control of the Republicans until the election and for three months after it.
I am referring to visa files or records of a change to a Stanley's US passport in Kenya. If Obama had been born in Kenya, and he was born in Hawaii of course, but IF he were born in Kenya, there would be no way that he could get into the USA without some kind of travel document. He would either have to receive a new British passport and get a US visa on it, or he would have to be entered on his mother's US passport while she was in Kenya (if she was in Kenya, and she wasn't). Either of those situations would require documents and records, which would still exist and could not be sealed. They would be in the files of the US State Department, and if they existed would have been found by now.
Well, lots of luck finding any records of Obama's, Kenyan or otherwise: he won't release ANY of his records!
Corsi was there to research Obama's ties to Raila Odinga among other things...once again, information about Obama was blocked.
Dr. Chiyome Fukino said this: "I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
Whatever her spokesperson said, it was not what Dr. Fukino said.
In any case, I will be looking forward to the various lawsuits and the information the produce. Something is not right and I want to know. Perhaps you don't. In fact, I can't imagine what motivates you to spend this much time here.
Obama's mother was too young to confer citizenship on him if he was born in Kenya. But, even if he was born in Hawaii, there is no evidence that he was ever reinstated as a citizen after returning from Indonesia.
Re: "once again, information about Obama was blocked."
ONLY WND has said that there are any files in Kenya or that any files in Kenya are blocked. The blocking of files that are normally public files, such as the records of arrivals at airports (which would show whether Obama's mother arrived in 1961) cannot be hidden. If such files were blocked, the very blocking of them would be newsworthy, and there are hundreds of journalists in Kenya.
Furthermore, if Obama were born in Kenya, there would be US government files on the matter. Files that could not be blocked to the agencies of the government, such as the FBI and CIA, who would like to look, and to the employees of the State Department itself. I am referring to visa files or the records of a change to a passport.
If Obama were born in Kenya, he would have to have a US visa on a British passport to get from Kenya to Hawaii, or a change to his mother's passport while she was in Kenya to include him. Both would be recorded in the files of the State Department. Neither have been found.
So, there is NO proof that he was born in Kenya. The grandmother tape clearly has her saying that he was born in Hawaii. The officials in Hawaii say that there was an original birth certificate in the file (and in 1961 that cannot have been a foreign birth certificate). The spokeswoman for the department said that the original birth certificate in the file (in 1961, when it could not have been foreign) means that Obama was born in Hawaii.
And then there is this: http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/554495.html
The US government and the Indonesian government have now both said that Obama was never a citizen of Indonesia. (YES, there is an application to a school that said that he was, but that was a lie.)
It isa ctually rather difficult to become an Indonesian citizen, particularly for US children, and there is no evidence that his parents even tried. However, it is possible to lie to get into school (together with a little bribery), and that is what happened in this case.
Sarah Obama said on tape that she was present when Obama was born. That has never been disputed. However, if Obama were born in Hawaii, there would be documented proof of her entry into the United States of which there is none.
"When Jerome Corsi, senior WND investigator reporter, recently traveled to Kenya to investigate several questions about the candidate, he was told the records were sealed and would not be made available":
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78931
Re: Indonesia - "Jerry Fuller and Mike Persons of the passport services division of the U.S. State Department say such a move for a child, coupled with the apparent adoption, could impact a child's birth certificate. That includes the possibility of a change in the listed location of the birth, a change in the names of the parents on the birth certificate, and others. Without a doubt, officials said, the result could be a dual citizenship. That would be possible with Kenya through his father, or even Indonesia – if that nation recognized dual citizenship at the time in the 1960s–through a stepfather.
The AP has reported that Obama was listed as Barry Soetoro while a child attending school as a citizen of Indonesia and his religion listed as Islam."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104602
Some Kenyans (and Ugandans) believe Obama was born in Kenya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl1K94ALlTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14
http://allafrica.com/stories/200802180051.html
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